So I thought I'd go through some basic things that I've learned as my way of paying forward all the advice and patience I received along the way. I'm not saying you can learn everything about dating on the internet, the absolute best thing you can do is visit fashion museums and established vintage clothing stores, and see and feel the items for yourself, but there are some websites out there that if you use correctly can help you pin point an era.
This is part one:
TESS
TESS is a great place to start. TESS stands for Trademark Electronic Search System, and is a database of registered trademarks in the United States. It is not fool proof - they admit themselves that not all trademarks are there, and not all information is current - but it can set you on the right path. It's not the easiest site to navigate, so I'll do a step by step with screen shots.
This data base is of course only helpful if you have a label to work with - but we'll assume you do.
For this example I'm going to use an item from my dear friend RetroThreadz shop:
Here we have a fabulous coat, with the label F.A.I. It's a very classic style, which makes it hard to pinpoint era just looking at the outside, but we have a label, with an R.N and fabric content (I'll come to what that means later on - lets stick to TESS for now)
So off we go to TESS. The first screen you come to will look like this (click on any picture to enlarge):
Click on "Search" which will bring you to this screen:
So off we go to TESS. The first screen you come to will look like this (click on any picture to enlarge):
Click on "Search" which will bring you to this screen:
On the next screen enter the text of your label excluding any punctuation, like so:
Hit return and you'll be brought to a page of results - we're lucky, there are only 35, and only one matches our label exactly - no. 31:
So now we can click on this result, and find all the information available on this website:
So from this we know:
Word Mark | F.A.I. |
Goods and Services | (CANCELLED) IC 025. US 039. G & S: Women's and Girls Shirts and Skirts; Women's and Girls Rainwear-Namely, Raincoats and Slickers; Women's Hats, Scarves and Gloves, Hosiery, Slippers, Belts and Shoes. FIRST USE: 19770200. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19770200 |
Mark Drawing Code | (1) TYPED DRAWING |
Serial Number | 73428745 |
Filing Date | June 6, 1983 |
Current Filing Basis | 1A |
Original Filing Basis | 1A |
Published for Opposition | June 12, 1984 |
Registration Number | 1292999 |
Registration Date | September 4, 1984 |
Owner | (REGISTRANT) Frederick Atkins Inc. CORPORATION NEW YORK 1515 Broadway New York NEW YORK 10036 |
Assignment Recorded | ASSIGNMENT RECORDED |
Attorney of Record | Granville M. Brumbaugh |
Prior Registrations | 1080353 |
Type of Mark | TRADEMARK |
Register | PRINCIPAL |
Live/Dead Indicator | DEAD |
Cancellation Date | January 23, 1991 |
So this label was first used in 1977, and was canceled in 1991. That gives us a nice tight range in which the jacket could have been made.
So now - armed with this information - we can start to look at style and construction .
But that's Part 2.....
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I just bought a green, chiffon full length dress with matching sheer "coat" that has fake fur at the wrists. Sadly, it doesn't have a label. I think it's a 1970's party dress but not sure. Eventually, I may post a few pictures on my blog. Thanks for the link to the Tess sight.
ReplyDeleteIf you'd like to send me a picture I could help? You can contact me through my etsy shop :)
ReplyDeleteTHANK YOU! i can spot a vintage outfit on a rack from 2 stores over, but when it comes to dating them....no clue. THANK YOU!!! WILL USE THIS. {ok, i will stop yelling now.}
ReplyDeletesweet im ganna check my baby clothes lol look wut u started!
ReplyDeleteGreat tool! I am going to venture to say that this coat is from '77-'79 but I am thinking more '77-'78 because of the collar.
ReplyDeleteGreat article & very helpful
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Thanks so much Blythe! You are great. This is so needed.
ReplyDeleteI love this Blythe, you have an awesome Blog!
ReplyDeleteThis is so helpful, thanks for sharing it. I have various pieces of my own and would love to check the dates. I always wondered how sellers found out about their items.
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Thanks so much for your help. I will be checking out this site.
ReplyDeletedoes this only work for items made in the US?
ReplyDeleteI'm afraid so Kerns.
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